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PostSubject: Anti-contraception Lobby   Sun Mar 09, 2008 12:27 pm

More pro-lifers than you'd think are also anti-contraception. Here is the latest anti-contraception move:


"Sticker Shock
Birth control prices are skyrocketing— and that’s just one way the current federal administration is making it harder for women to obtain contraception"

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PostSubject: Re: Anti-contraception Lobby   Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:49 pm

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More pro-lifers than you'd think are also anti-contraception. Here is the latest anti-contraception move:


"Sticker Shock
Birth control prices are skyrocketing— and that’s just one way the current federal administration is making it harder for women to obtain contraception"

To read the article, please click on this link:
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How is reducing the deficit "anti-contraception?" The provision of the Deficit Reduction Act did nothing to coerce people to stop using contraception. It just reduced the extent to which the cost was dumped on to future generations. What is the problem with expecting the users of contraception to pay for it?
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PostSubject: Re: Anti-contraception Lobby   Tue Jun 17, 2008 12:47 am

NorthStar wrote:
Admin wrote:
More pro-lifers than you'd think are also anti-contraception. Here is the latest anti-contraception move:


"Sticker Shock
Birth control prices are skyrocketing— and that’s just one way the current federal administration is making it harder for women to obtain contraception"

To read the article, please click on this link:
source

How is reducing the deficit "anti-contraception?" The provision of the Deficit Reduction Act did nothing to coerce people to stop using contraception. It just reduced the extent to which the cost was dumped on to future generations. What is the problem with expecting the users of contraception to pay for it?

Nothing as long as you aren't trying to make abortion illegal. If you are trying to make abortion illegal AND making contraception too expensive for many women to afford, that's kind of ridiculous isn't it?

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PostSubject: Re: Anti-contraception Lobby   Tue Jun 17, 2008 7:52 pm

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Nothing as long as you aren't trying to make abortion illegal. If you are trying to make abortion illegal AND making contraception too expensive for many women to afford, that's kind of ridiculous isn't it?

How so?
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PostSubject: Re: Anti-contraception Lobby   Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:46 pm

Because people are going to have sex and women are not going to have anymore children than they want. So women will be forced to undergo dangerous procedures in back alleys JUST LIKE THEY DID PRE-ROE and PRE-GRISWOLD*:

* http://yalemedicine.yale.edu/ym_sp07/capsule.html

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PostSubject: Re: Anti-contraception Lobby   Wed Jun 18, 2008 8:15 pm

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Because people are going to have sex and women are not going to have anymore children than they want.

On what basis?

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So women will be forced to undergo dangerous procedures in back alleys JUST LIKE THEY DID PRE-ROE and PRE-GRISWOLD

Why are you assuming that the only way to get money for contraception is to enlarge the already massive debt that the country is going to pass on to future generations? Why can these women not have irresponsible sex with men who have jobs so that they can pay for the contraception? And how will the women of those future generations pay for contraception when they are paying 80 percent of their income to service the national debt?

For that matter, why should I care about the women who get abortions?
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PostSubject: Re: Anti-contraception Lobby   Wed Jun 18, 2008 9:04 pm

NorthStar wrote:
futureshock wrote:
Because people are going to have sex and women are not going to have anymore children than they want.

On what basis?
Ask around. Many women either got on birth control (pill, shot, patch or IUD) or have their tubes tied (like me) when they get to the number of children they want. Some will get abortions if the cost of pills and condoms sky rocket to the point people can not afford them.

futureshock wrote:
So women will be forced to undergo dangerous procedures in back alleys JUST LIKE THEY DID PRE-ROE and PRE-GRISWOLD

NorthStar wrote:
Why are you assuming that the only way to get money for contraception is to enlarge the already massive debt that the country is going to pass on to future generations? Why can these women not have irresponsible sex with men who have jobs so that they can pay for the contraception? And how will the women of those future generations pay for contraception when they are paying 80 percent of their income to service the national debt?

For that matter, why should I care about the women who get abortions?

If a woman is using controspectives(yes my spelling sucks) they are not being irresponsible. But women may be forced into irresponsible acts if the price of protecting themselves becomes to far out of reach.
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PostSubject: Re: Anti-contraception Lobby   Sat Jun 21, 2008 2:54 pm

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NorthStar wrote:
futureshock wrote:
Because people are going to have sex and women are not going to have anymore children than they want.

On what basis?
Ask around.

Ask around? That is your basis?

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Many women either got on birth control (pill, shot, patch or IUD) or have their tubes tied (like me) when they get to the number of children they want. Some will get abortions if the cost of pills and condoms sky rocket to the point people can not afford them.

But abortion is almost exclusively a result of pregnancies that originate as a result of illicit sex- such as fornication, adultery, incest, rape, and prostitution. Those forms of sex are prone to being suppressed by government action. For example, one scientific study found that states employing strict enforcement of child support have up to 20 percent fewer unmarried births than states that are lax about getting unmarried fathers to pay.

http://www.uwnews.org/article.asp?articleID=10608

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If a woman is using controspectives(yes my spelling sucks) they are not being irresponsible.

I did not say otherwise.

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But women may be forced into irresponsible acts if the price of protecting themselves becomes to far out of reach.

Why is marrying a man with a job so "out of reach" for women?
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PostSubject: Re: Anti-contraception Lobby   Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:27 pm

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Why is marrying a man with a job so "out of reach" for women?

Ask the men with jobs why they aren't marrying their pregnant girlfriends.

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PostSubject: Re: Anti-contraception Lobby   Wed Sep 29, 2010 2:32 pm

Now, obviously, some nurses, doctors, assistant doctors and other providers that have the right to decide whether to give you the best contraceptive, and if so, you are allowed to use, when you stop using, regardless of your wish them well. Not because of any medical reasons. Just because they do not like a particular vendor-specific method.
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