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PostSubject: A Fertilized Egg is NOT a Human Being   Fri May 02, 2008 6:26 pm

Answering the anti-choice statement that a fertilized egg is a human being:


Definitions are all man made., anyway, so all of this is arbitrary. Currently, the definitions of both human being and person are born entities, not unborn. Even the scientific designation of Homo Sapien is of a born entity, not an unborn. However, scientific classification is also man-made.

One reason a fertilized egg is not considered a human being, or more accurately a Homo Sapien, is that a fertilized egg, or zygote, is a single cell. Humans are not single celled animals, we are multi celled animals. A single cell could not even meet the definition of a mammal, which human beings of course are.

Please read the following communication with a biologist for more information:

Expert: Dana Krempels, Ph.D.
Date: 7/31/2007
Subject: Classification of Homo Sapien cells as HS themselves

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QUESTION: Hi,
I'm doing research on biological identity and wanted to clarify whether different humans cells can be considered Homo sapiens themselves? To me Homo Sapeins is a colonial organism with a life cycle that includes a single cell stage. Therefore only the zygote and the colonial stages are Homo sapiens, while individual cells sex, skin and blood cells etc arenít Homo Sapiens.

It would be helpful if phenotypes regarding Homo Sapiens was also cleared up.

Iíve also had it put that cells themselves are considered just another phenotype of Homo Sapiens, so just as gender or a human with blonde hair are phenotypes so are zygotes or sex cells phenotypes of Homo sapiens. To me this doesnít make sense, there may be phenotypes of types of cells but to conflate that with phenotypes of Homo sapiens runs into the same problem as above.

Can you help clear this up?


ANSWER: Dear Simon,

I don't know any biologist who would classify a single cell from a Homo sapiens as a Homo sapiens. Even a zygote, which may have the *potential* to become a Homo sapiens, but is not an organism by any stretch of the imagination, is not considered an individual Homo sapiens by any members of the scientific community that I know.

A colonial organism is defined as one being composed of loosely organized cells, sometimes with a division of labor. In many truly colonial organisms (e.g., Volvox; some would include sponges), the cells can survive on their own, when taken out of the colony, and even undergo mitosis to produce a new colony (without the help of cloning technology). So in the strictest, biological sense, no eumetazoan (including a human) is a colonial organism.

An organism that exhibits *true multicellularity* (as opposed to being colonial) is defined as one composed of various types of cells that are coordinated to perform particular functions by organizing into organs and organ systems. The individual cells cannot survive for long outside the whole organism.

I do not believe the scientific community in general considers a zygote, blastula or gastrula containing the human genome to be a Homo sapiens. To a biologist, those cells or conglomerations of cells have only the *potential* to become human. This may be a matter of debate in social and political circles, but not in serious scientific ones.


http://en.allexperts.com/q/Biology-664/Classification-Homo-Sapien-cells-1.htm


For my own interest, when you say, "If we do for them it calls into question some current thinking on biological classification of zygotes etc."

...are you aware of any biological classification of zygotes? I've actually not heard of anyone even discussing whether a zygote is an individual organism or not--with the notable exception of Homo sapiens zygotes when it come to arguments about abortion rights.

But no other species I know of is considered an individual organism at the zygote stage, which makes me wonder why Homo sapiens should be considered any different from them. We differ from other species only in degree, and not in kind.


http://en.allexperts.com/q/Biology-664/Classification-Homo-Sapien-cells-1.htm
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PostSubject: Re: A Fertilized Egg is NOT a Human Being   Thu Aug 21, 2008 2:55 pm

That's certainly interesting. When do they postulate that an unborn human becomes a human being? When do they consider it an organism with working systems? Is it when all the organs needed are formed? That would be the completion of the organism's potential systems, wouldn't it? I can understand their logic.
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PostSubject: Re: A Fertilized Egg is NOT a Human Being   Thu Aug 21, 2008 3:07 pm

"Organogenesis is the formation of organs and systems from the primary germ layers in the developing embryo. All organ systems are present at the end of 8 weeks post-fertilisation. At this point, the individual is known as a foetus and is roughly 3cm long. The following table summarises what organ system each of the three germ layers goes on to form"

from: http://www.virtualmedicalcentre.com/anatomy.asp?sid=27

I've read conflicting reports as to when the unborn is considered a fetus. Is it 8 weeks or 10? According to that site, changing the name to fetus implies the fact that the unborn has developed all of its organ systems. That would make sense.
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PostSubject: Re: A Fertilized Egg is NOT a Human Being   Thu Aug 21, 2008 9:38 pm

EiriForLife wrote:
"Organogenesis is the formation of organs and systems from the primary germ layers in the developing embryo. All organ systems are present at the end of 8 weeks post-fertilisation. At this point, the individual is known as a foetus and is roughly 3cm long. The following table summarises what organ system each of the three germ layers goes on to form"

from: http://www.virtualmedicalcentre.com/anatomy.asp?sid=27

I've read conflicting reports as to when the unborn is considered a fetus. Is it 8 weeks or 10? According to that site, changing the name to fetus implies the fact that the unborn has developed all of its organ systems. That would make sense.

Pregnancy is counted from the first day of the last menstrual period. For that reason, for the first two weeks of pregnancy there is no actual embryo, and fertilization hasn't even occurred. So an embryo becomes a fetus after the 10th week of pregnancy.

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PostSubject: Re: A Fertilized Egg is NOT a Human Being   Thu Aug 21, 2008 10:21 pm

EiriForLife wrote:
That's certainly interesting. When do they postulate that an unborn human becomes a human being? When do they consider it an organism with working systems? Is it when all the organs needed are formed? That would be the completion of the organism's potential systems, wouldn't it? I can understand their logic.

The definition of human being varies by country, most if not all say that a human being begins at birth:

http://eileen.undonet.com/Main/KreeftBeckwith/WhatIsAHumanBeing.html

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PostSubject: Re: A Fertilized Egg is NOT a Human Being   Wed Sep 29, 2010 2:28 pm

Well, there are number of benefits of the eggs which is describe as below:

(1) Eggs are rich in nutrients
(2) Eggs are good for your cardiavascular health
(3) Eggs contain choline, a key component for regulating cardiovascular, brain and nervous system
(4) An egg breakfast can help promote weight loss
(5) Lutein in eggs can help prevent cataract/macular degeneration
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